Chastity and Urination
What goes in must come out and hopefully not on you
This question comes up a lot in r/chastitytraining: how do I pee? And again, this post doesn’t contemplate uncircumcised men as I only have the one penis.
So, the easy answer is you sit. And if you’re a service sub like I am or otherwise are responsible for cleaning the bathrooms, you know why. Even without the cage, it doesn’t all go in the toilet. You get the dreaded split streams, you get the splashing, sometimes it just doesn’t go the direction you think it’s going to go. Giving up on standing at home is probably the most immediate material benefit you can give your spouse.
But there’s also the office and other public bathrooms. And frankly for those with young male children who you will be taking to the bathroom with you, and who are learning how to deal with public restrooms by emulating you, you likely don’t want to use the stall every time. You want to use the urinal.
So, let’s look at some cage design aspects and how they affect your ability to pee as god intended (insert joke about multiple orgasms1).
Fit
I’m not the world’s biggest expert on flat cages. I have worn one for a total of 7 hours and my experiment with flat cages came to an end because urination hurt. Why did it hurt? Well, the section of my urethra that normally travels through the 125 mm of my penis was stuck in a flat cage and probably looked like tangled Christmas lights. And it hurt to try to pee. Maybe if I was much shorter, it wouldn’t be an issue but regardless, I think the rule remains, the cage has to fit reasonably well. And for some smaller men, a flat cage may fit reasonably well but for me, yeah, I can wear it but trying to urinate while doing so is actually dangerous.
So, you need a cage long enough that urine can actually flow. But there’s more to it than that.
At the end of the urethra within the glans there is the fossa navicularis. And anyone who uses tetherspouts knows about this area even if they don’t know the name. It’s a large cavernous area of the urethra (hence “fossa”) just inside the glans before the urethra heads down and along the bottom of the shaft (yes, the urethra runs along the bottom of the shaft, not down the center like many of those shitty Chinese cages with the steel urethral inserts would suggest). People who research this stuff believe it’s partly responsible for forming our urine stream (Navier-Stokes fans give it up). If it’s compressed, things will be a bit unpredictable.
My BA-28 is about 85 mm which makes it a bit of a compression cage, not so much that it’s difficult to keep clean with it on; I can wear it indefinitely, but the urine stream is a tad on the unpredictable side and I suspect it’s because the fossa navicularis is being compressed a bit, enough to prevent it from working the way it’s intended.
So, while I can stand at a urinal and pee in my BA-28, I need to be careful as sometimes it’s less than predictable.
Design
I generally tell people that a cage’s design, within reason, has little to do with comfort; it’s just the measurements that matter. This is where the design does matter.
You want the end of the cage to be as clean as possible.
Something like Red Chili’s ZZ cage isn’t going to work. Even if you are able to get through the vertical bars, if the stream hits the offset horizontal bars… well…
The design I find that works well, and I’ve had this design in multiple cages, is a long vertical opening. It needn’t be wider than 8 mm (and you really don’t want a wide opening – trust me on this one and don’t ask why2). I have this design in my BA-28, The Grip, my own prints use this design, and of course the cage I’m doing with BAWR features it. Aside from the issue I described above with the -28, all of these cages allow some degree of confidence when standing at the urinal.
There may be other designs that work. I know some people stand to pee in their Cobras. I personally found my Viper difficult, not because of the design of the end of the cage but because its very downward angle made lifting it up to the urinal pull on my spermatic cords. But it’s a pretty long one, half way between an R and R+ so perhaps a shorter version wouldn’t have that issue.
Other Options
Besides the cage’s design itself, there are other options – which is why I gave this section the heading “other options”. Clever, aren’t I?
Tetherspouts
I’ll start here because it’s what I’m most familiar with. As a brief introduction, tetherspouts are a security device that I liken to a prosthetic PA. For the purposes of this article, they consist of a short tube that goes just inside the urethra no further than the fossa navicularis. This shallow penetration is what makes them so safe compared to some of the other options, namely catheters.
With the tetherspout, I have far more confidence in my ability to stand to pee, even in a sit-down toilet. If I go full-bore, I can get a bit of leaking around the side of the spout but as long as I stay close to the urinal, it all ends up where I want it to go. I will say, my chosen method to secure the spout, a security screw that goes through the transverse hole in the spout, can cause urine to stay in the spout. That urine needs to be flushed out which just takes some tapping. There are other ways to secure a spout that don’t have this problem but this is my preferred method.
For those uninterested in the security aspect but simply want to be able to pee, I imagine there would be no issue wearing the tetherspout without the retainer ring. It could be inserted and removed trivially versus the bit of practice it takes to install the retainer but you’ll still want it secured to the cage somehow or it will move around and become uncomfortable.
Prince Alberts
I’m on shaky ground here but with a PA of large enough gauge, you can have a hole in the hook that allows you to urinate through. I’m not sure how large that gauge has to be and perhaps even something as small as an 8 AWG PA would be large enough. I’m sure someone will chime in and provide more info.
Catheters
No. Just no. There is no way to wear a catheter safely. People do get UTIs. Even people who do everything right get UTIs. UTIs can lead to sepsis which can lead to death. But why am I talking about tetherspouts while I’m so against catheters? UTIs happen when bacteria get a ways up your urethra to where they can cause issues. That’s why women get them so frequently – they have incredibly short urethras compared to men. A catheter gives those little fuckers a nice safe way deeper into your urethra where they can cause infection. I have never heard of a credible report of a UTI with a tetherspout3 and I do a lot of research about anything before I jump into it.
If this is still something you want to explore, please read all of the comments in this post first.
When Things Go Wrong
Pray you’re not wearing light gray slacks and left your blazer in your office. Perhaps convince a colleague to dump water on their pants?
The joke goes that the not-yet embodied souls of Adam and Eve were standing before God. God asks “ok, who wants to pee standing up?“. Before Eve has a chance to consider, Adam quickly jumps up and shouts, “Me! Me! Me!!”. God then says, “ok, Eve, you get the multiple orgasms”.
Because someone will ask why – there’s a post showing a man wearing a Cherry Keeper with his glans completely on the other side of the cage from the rest of his penis. He was okay but it’s one of those things you can’t unsee.
One person left a comment on one of my posts where he said he got a UTI with a tetherspout. I asked him to clarify as a lot of people confuse the terminology of the various chastity-related urethral thingies. He never replied.